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unitedhealthcare. >>> all right. down to the wire. still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off. >>> millions of americans will countdown to a fiscal cliff. a development that could send the nation back to recession. yesterday, the two parties turned to their respective closers, vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a back door deal done. the republican is not giving up. >> i'm interested in getting a result here. willing to work with whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. >> all right according to the president, there has always been and still is one big sticking point. raising
unitedhealthcare. >>> all right. down to the wire. still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >>...
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so what is that going to do to the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> right, there are a couple deadli deadlines actually coming up. january 2nd is the last day of the current congress. any bill that's been submitted, especially the bills that have been passed, the deal with the fiscal cliff, those bills would be worthless. they would go into paper and everything would have to start from scratch. the new congress would have to start a bill and start the process from the beginning. now there are some tricks that congress has to try to speed things up when it wants to. so to some degree, it's not that big of a deal. if there was a deal in the offing, january 3rd, enough votes for it, they could get around the hurdles. but i'm glad you brought up the deadlines because another one is tomorrow. unemployment benefits run out tomorrow for 1 million people. not true. the unemployment portion of the fiscal cliff actually hits us tomorrow. and that's when 1 million people are estimated to see unemployment benefits run out. and tomorrow is also the day that the
so what is that going to do to the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> right, there are a couple deadli deadlines actually coming up. january 2nd is the last day of the current congress. any bill that's been submitted, especially the bills that have been passed, the deal with the fiscal cliff, those bills would be worthless. they would go into paper and everything would have to start from scratch. the new congress would have to start a bill and start the process from the beginning. now there...
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the debt showdown last summer is what led to the fiscal cliff we're facing right now. just one more complication or bargaining chip. remind us, you're the best at putting this in perspective. remind us why the debt ceiling is just as important as the fiscal cliff. >> let me take you back a little while. to the conversation about the bun ji jump. here's the problem. confidence doesn't react to a bun ji jump. if you stole my phone and then i got it back from you, it would take that time before i develop that trust wp we saw the consumer confidence numbers come out and they have taken a big hit because consumers are worried about the fiscal cliff. the investing side is our debt raiting, you'll recall the last time we messed around with the debt ceiling, we got kicked down a notch. so if we are seen to be so irresponsible we would do this again and get past our debt limit, the world may sit there and say you're not that good. maybe americans are irresponsible with their money. we hit the debt limit on money. we have known that was coming. the treasury secretary reenforced
the debt showdown last summer is what led to the fiscal cliff we're facing right now. just one more complication or bargaining chip. remind us, you're the best at putting this in perspective. remind us why the debt ceiling is just as important as the fiscal cliff. >> let me take you back a little while. to the conversation about the bun ji jump. here's the problem. confidence doesn't react to a bun ji jump. if you stole my phone and then i got it back from you, it would take that time...
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cnn's coverage of the fiscal cliff continues right after this.
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it's all because of the worries about the fiscal cliff. suzanne. >> all right. let's just listen in, and i'll bring you back for a bit. ♪ >> all right. there you go. allison, i want to bring you back for a couple quick questions here. we know the stocks are down, fiscal cliff. talk about what we think that means for us if we end up going over the fiscal cliff and you're looking at a lot of tax hikes as well as spending cuts. >> yeah. you have to believe if we go over the cliff that some sort of deal will happen up. if not within the first couple days of year, maybe the first couple weeks. what may happen is an impact right away to your paychecks in the early weeks of the new year. here is an idea of what we're in for anyway. we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns a
it's all because of the worries about the fiscal cliff. suzanne. >> all right. let's just listen in, and i'll bring you back for a bit. ♪ >> all right. there you go. allison, i want to bring you back for a couple quick questions here. we know the stocks are down, fiscal cliff. talk about what we think that means for us if we end up going over the fiscal cliff and you're looking at a lot of tax hikes as well as spending cuts. >> yeah. you have to believe if we go over the...
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align. >>> we are so close to the fiscal cliff right now we can pra practically look over the edge. in fact, some people are saying it might even be too late for a deal and we'll go over that cliff. harry reid just took to the senate floor 30 minutes ago to say he thinks it's likely we're going to go over the cliff. republicans like house speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell have been radio silent on negotiations. joining me is will kain and roland martin, a political analyst and columnist. welcome to you both. >> good to see you. >> good to see you. i'm just so sad we have to talk about the fiscal cliff. let's start with you, roland. harry reid comes out and says the house isn't in session. the president is back. the house is going nowhere. john boehner is doing a terrible job and we'll likely go off the cliff because of the republicans. >> it's interesting. this morning i talked to congressman e moon yule cleaver and part of the issue deals with the house rules. they have to have 48-hours notice to come back to washington, d.c. republicans also have a rule -- >> like there are
align. >>> we are so close to the fiscal cliff right now we can pra practically look over the edge. in fact, some people are saying it might even be too late for a deal and we'll go over that cliff. harry reid just took to the senate floor 30 minutes ago to say he thinks it's likely we're going to go over the cliff. republicans like house speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell have been radio silent on negotiations. joining me is will kain and roland martin, a political analyst and...
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to the fiscal cliff, and of course, they blamed each other. best supporters of gay rights, state victories and supreme court consideration for same-sex marriage, the election of the first openly lesbian u.s. senator, and president obama finally coming around to their cause. >> my expectation is that when you look back on these years, you will see a time in which we put a stop to discrimination against gays and lesbians, whether in the office or in the battlefield. >> equality, you know, people should be able to do whatever they really want in life. >> worst disappointment for supporters of comprehensive immigration reform. the president promised but won't be able to deliver until his second term, although he issued an executive order allowing children of undocumented workers to stay in the u.s. for college. best supreme court win for the white house, health care reform remains the law of the land. >> i'm sure we'll still be talking about it in 2013, but the big overhaul that was promised by republicans, that's not going to happen. >> the court
to the fiscal cliff, and of course, they blamed each other. best supporters of gay rights, state victories and supreme court consideration for same-sex marriage, the election of the first openly lesbian u.s. senator, and president obama finally coming around to their cause. >> my expectation is that when you look back on these years, you will see a time in which we put a stop to discrimination against gays and lesbians, whether in the office or in the battlefield. >> equality, you...
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cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor aft
cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to...
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cliff uncertainty. >> you're right about that. wall street had a decent year. the dow is up 6% and the nasdaq is up 14%, and the s&p 500, that mostly tracks your retirement savings up more than 11%. we've seen a slow churn upward over the course of the year, and that's how you want to see the market move. much has to do with the improving economy. the question is what will happen when we go on over the cliff, will we see stocks fall and what will happen to the economy? we know it wouldn't look good for the economy at this point. christine. >> no, it won't. thank you. here's how the markets are reacting as we edge closer to the fiscal cliff and investors brace for the potential fallout. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save.
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. >>> so what could the fiscal cliff mean for wall street and your retirement fund? i'm going to ask independent new york stock exchange trader in about one hour from now. >>> all right. let's switch gears here. because after newtown, gun buybacks are making headlines across the country. >>> and we're going to tell you how donors funded the biggest buyback ever in one connecticut town. i know. i'm will, and this is the nokia lumia 920 from at&t. it's got live tiles so all my stuff's always right there in real-time. it's like the ultimate personal assistant. but i'm me, and me needs handlers. so i hired todd to handle it for me. todd, gimme that hollywood news! what's happening on twitter? you're trending! yes! you can't have a todd, but you can have your own personal assistant. i guess you could call it todd. [ male announcer ] the new nokia lumia 920 with live tiles that deliver what you want in real time. only from at&t. rethink possible. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is prove
. >>> so what could the fiscal cliff mean for wall street and your retirement fund? i'm going to ask independent new york stock exchange trader in about one hour from now. >>> all right. let's switch gears here. because after newtown, gun buybacks are making headlines across the country. >>> and we're going to tell you how donors funded the biggest buyback ever in one connecticut town. i know. i'm will, and this is the nokia lumia 920 from at&t. it's got live...
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the struggle to avoid the fiscal cliff. and a luxury ship, cruise ship on its side in the water. well, now think about the advances made in science. some of them dazzle the eye. john zarrella counts down the top ten. >> reporter: at number ten a revolutionary camera called litro. >> it is such a powerful technology breakthrough that this will forever change how we all take inexperienced pictures. >> reporter: the camera captures the entire light field allowing the picture's focus and perspective to be changed after it's been taken. number nine, nasa's dawn spacecraft sent back staggering data about an asteroid 325 miles in diameter called vesta. it appears vesta went through some stages of planetary evolution. it's one of a kind in the solar system. >> what's clear to us is that vesta appears to be the only intact proto planet that's left. >> reporter: number eight. you may have heard the term god particle. scientists call it higsbosin. the european nuclear research corporation claims to have found it. why is it a big deal? think big bang theory. >> and this particle we think was
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but it's because -- >> right. >> because the fiscal cliff. i'm done with that until we get some news. >> i think that's a lot of name recognition, don't you? people also, rand paul, for example, very dynamic on television. people recognize him and his energy and his different ideas, so he stands out. but it also is a reflection of the fact that the republican party doesn't -- has an identity crisis. these are people who are moderates and iconic class and very far out on the edges. that doesn't speak to a party that really has a clear leader or a central ideology to speak to. >> and won't until it gets a nominee. the next time we'll know what the republican party is about, maybe, when they get a nominee, right? >> well, you can get the contours of a debate if people really don't have one. remember bill clinton campaigning in the late '80s and early 1990s building a consistent case for the democratic party that was in some ways in worst shape than republicans are now. >> that took two gigantic strokes of luck. one was that mario cuomo did not r
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"early start" begins right now. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us. one final desperate attempt to dodge the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority le
"early start" begins right now. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012....
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. >>> fiscal cliff, debt, and egos. how much of what is going on in washington is about what's right versus who's right? one doctor has some suggestions for the decision-makers. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. ...and now... you! [ giggles ] ♪ the one and only, cheerios your doctor will sa
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the fiscal cliff edition of "starting point" begins right now. >> our "starting point" this morning is breaking news. the senate strikes a deal on the fiscal cliff, but not before we've officially fallen off the cliff. we are off it right now. here is where things stand right now. a bill crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed in the senate by a margin of 89-8. happened just after 2:00 in the morning. the republican controlled house has agreed to consider this later this morning. but anyone's guess how this will turn out. if the house votes yes, the measure would generate 600 billion in revenues over the next ten years. how things are sized up overnight. >> i've said all along, our most important priority is protecting middle class families. this legislation does this. >> this shouldn't be the model of how we do things around here. but i think we can sigh we've done some good for the country. >> if it passes the house, here is what the plan means for you and your family. bush era tax cuts would stay in place for individuals earning less than $400,
the fiscal cliff edition of "starting point" begins right now. >> our "starting point" this morning is breaking news. the senate strikes a deal on the fiscal cliff, but not before we've officially fallen off the cliff. we are off it right now. here is where things stand right now. a bill crafted by vice president joe biden and minority leader mitch mcconnell passed in the senate by a margin of 89-8. happened just after 2:00 in the morning. the republican controlled...
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fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now, four top members of congress meeting with the president in the oval office. can they avert us going over that fiscal cliff? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a jetta. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new v
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the fiscal cliff might seem extremely large right now. we look at the more long-term view, a small blip on the overall screen. we'll see a lot of volatility but can you deal with the volatility and if it's causing to you lose sleep it might have an indication you might want to make some changes. >> it's hard not to have a knee-jerk reaction. before we get to that talk about tax deferred accounts. how will the fiscal cliff affect them. >> this is the beautiful part about this is that the biggest concern individuals are having that we've worked with and talking to, what is going to happen with my taxes? what is going to happen with my dividends taxes, capital gains? so the best part about it, if you're dealing with non-qualified accounts you might have to be concerned about that but qualified accounts or tax deferred accounts such as your 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts, roth and traditional, these accounts are tax deferred and many 509 plans, college savings plans, different types of concept are tax deferred and some are tax fre
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and the meeting that may be the last best chance to keep the country from going over the fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leader
and the meeting that may be the last best chance to keep the country from going over the fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to...
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. >>> next, just six days until the fiscal cliff. the clock is ticking and it's not just about taxes. ahead, what else is at risk if a deal isn't reached in washington? >>> and the latest on former president george h.w. bush. an update on his condition is next. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ breathes deeply ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] yes, it is. with two times the points on dining in restaurants,? you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a jetta. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new v
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so we are going over the fiscal cliff, isn't that right? >> reporter: technically, that's absolutely right, you're right. because to not go over the cliff, both houses of congress will have to pass something to avert that, and the president will have to sign it. so that is true. and that is why, as i said, politically, there aren't a lot of -- there are some people who aren't that upset about it, because it kind of makes the medicine go down a little bit easier when they vote on these cuts. having said that, we've heard from democrats in particular, for weeks now, that, you know, to sort of take a deep breath, that yes, it is called the fiscal cliff, but it is more of a slope, and particularly advantageous to members of congress who haven't got be their work done that january 1st is a federal holiday. so nothing is going to happen and there aren't going to be any real-world effects, especially when we're talking about the thing that really matters the most to a lot of people around here, just how the market is reacting. we saw the market go
so we are going over the fiscal cliff, isn't that right? >> reporter: technically, that's absolutely right, you're right. because to not go over the cliff, both houses of congress will have to pass something to avert that, and the president will have to sign it. so that is true. and that is why, as i said, politically, there aren't a lot of -- there are some people who aren't that upset about it, because it kind of makes the medicine go down a little bit easier when they vote on these...
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. >> you're right. we're talking about three things when we talk about the fiscal cliff. one is the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 that the democrats claim they want to protect for most americans. they all voted against them. they didn't want them in the first place, but now they recognize how terribly important they are, they claim. for two full years, all of 2009 and all of 2010, obama was president. you had a super majority of democrats in the house and the senate. they could have passed making permanent those tax cuts for l all, some americans, people making less than $250,000 a year, they could have done that. they didn't. why do you believe the democrats really want to do something they no longer have the votes to do when they could have done it when they had the votes. that's one part of the fiscal cliff. the other part is the sequester, which saves money. the president wants to end that. and the third part is $1 trillion in obama's taxes. that's the obama care taxes they hid from you because they're all scheduled to come in after he got safely elected. >> let's go
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what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not
what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would...
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this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested. >> shifting federal spending from consumption to investment as for the future. >> all right, ken thanks very much, and we'll be leaning on you for guidance over the course of the next few days. >>> who doesn't want a little eva longoria in her life. she's helping fellow latinas get a college education. are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> yesterday we brought you the shirtless matthew mcconaughey. today something the men at the
this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested....
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huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the agreement that the senators are working on can actually move forward after the meeting here. there is a modest uptick in enthusiasm about that possibility. but as for the backup plan, there's no real likelihood that would ever come to a vote. because republicans would likely block it in both the senate and it would likely not come to a vote in the house. so that's really more rhetoric than it is reality and we have to hope for option "a," getting an agreement in the senate, if we're going to avoid going over the cliff. >> rhetoric versus reality, that's always a tricky place to be in
huddled together with just four days to go before we all go over the fiscal cliff. that meeting lasted for an hour and five minutes. now on a story where every second and every maneuver counts let's get right to chief white house correspondent increase ka yellin. the president says he's modestly optimistic but he also presented a backup plan. does the president really think it will come to that? >> at this point, no. they don't. because the white house is hopeful, first of all, that the...
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we're watching what's happening on capitol hill this back and forth over the fiscal cliff. do you believe it's going to be all right? >> well you know, i have to have faith. i have to believe that the senators in congress, people understand that these are real people who are unemployed, that you know, they're making decisions on people's lives. it's just not a number. it's not just 2 million people. there are 2 million families and even those people who have not found a job that doesn't even report to the unemployment that they do not have a job, so it's many people unemployed and jobs are very hard to come by. >> karen, i'm going to have on some leadership, members of the leadership from washington in a moment and i want to you just speak to them, what do you want them to know before this meeting at the white house today? just tell them your appeal to come to some kind of deal so that your benefits don't run out. >> you want me to -- >> yes tell me what you would say to them. >> i'm sorry. i would ask them to please, come together and make a decision, a decision is needed,
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if they are not there, it's easy to say we went over the fiscal cliff and we were here in washington working. that's what they are trying to get across here. coming back on sunday maybe doesn't look as bad when they were at work earlier in the week. we want to you listen to something harry reid said. a top senate democrat as you know. take a listen. >> john boehner caring more about keeping his speakership than keeping them on financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here. he is waiting until january 3rd to get reelected to speaker before he gets serious about the negotiation. >> okay. dana, you don't have to translate that. it's about the blame game. >> of course it's all about the blame game. >> digging through, i know you were talking about any scaled back piece of legislation would look like and reports they got from republicans and the president told mitch mcconnell that he would get the details. that's where from the perspective of republicans where things stand. the president publicly said before he left for his vacation in hawaii since everything else was deadlo
if they are not there, it's easy to say we went over the fiscal cliff and we were here in washington working. that's what they are trying to get across here. coming back on sunday maybe doesn't look as bad when they were at work earlier in the week. we want to you listen to something harry reid said. a top senate democrat as you know. take a listen. >> john boehner caring more about keeping his speakership than keeping them on financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here....
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off the fiscal cliff. merry christmas. we're now just seven days away from tax hikes for pretty much all americans. spending cuts that could break millions of families' budgets, and it could launch the economy back into a recession. president obama spent christmas eve playing golf with friends in hawaii, and right now the senate looks like the last hope for neglect getting past the fiscal krif. want to go to the white house correspondent briana keilar who is traveling with the first family in honolulu. any discusses at all that you're hearing from from sources in either party right now? >> reporter: some discussions, but they are not really surprising ones, dana right now we understand that the white house is talking with senate democrats, and this is exactly what you would expect ahead of the senate reconvening on the 27th when it's really up to senate majority leader harry reid to try to figure out some sort of measure that can get some republican support in the senate and some republican support in the
off the fiscal cliff. merry christmas. we're now just seven days away from tax hikes for pretty much all americans. spending cuts that could break millions of families' budgets, and it could launch the economy back into a recession. president obama spent christmas eve playing golf with friends in hawaii, and right now the senate looks like the last hope for neglect getting past the fiscal krif. want to go to the white house correspondent briana keilar who is traveling with the first family in...
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. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist ross douthat the and cornell. the president said he wanted to see a straight up-or-down vote. as we mentioned that, will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up-or-down vote. >> i think you're likely to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention, especially on the senate side to tone. what minority leader mcconnell was saying was tone was right. i think you'll see something come out of the senate but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether
. >> so how likely is it we will go over the fiscal cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi....
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how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone, i think you will see something come out of the senate on up and down, but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether or not in fact speaker john boehner is going to allow what the senate sends their way to go on an up or down vote, wit
how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more...
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the fiscal cliff. if we go over analysts say it will spark a recession. then again, congress is taking us right to the edge and maybe beyond. check out the full list of dumbest moments in business on cnn money.com. here's to a smarter 2013. back to you. >>> thank you, alison. if you have finished opening presen presents, you might be getting the family ready to head out to the movies today. what is on the movie menu? we'll have a rundown next. >>> speaking of movies which is your favorite christmas movie of all time? a new poll ranks some of the most popular. here is a look at the top five. a christmas carol ranks number five. white christmas is number four. number three, miracle on 34th street. number two, it's a wonderful life. then number one, it's next. [ cellphone chirping ] [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. yeah we both relieve c
the fiscal cliff. if we go over analysts say it will spark a recession. then again, congress is taking us right to the edge and maybe beyond. check out the full list of dumbest moments in business on cnn money.com. here's to a smarter 2013. back to you. >>> thank you, alison. if you have finished opening presen presents, you might be getting the family ready to head out to the movies today. what is on the movie menu? we'll have a rundown next. >>> speaking of movies which is...
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right now what we know for sure is this fiscal cliff can be avoided. everybody wants to avoid it, by extending those tax cuts on the first $250,000 that every household makes. that's the senate bill with a couple additional benefits that's before the house of representatives, john boehner should bring it to the floor for a vote. >> senator blumenthal, thank you very much for being with us, senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. ron you make an interesting point. if you project the u.s. budget out to 2020, the biggest single part of it will be the bush tax cuts so i'm not sure this business of making it permanent will make sense. >> it's hard to believe the democrats can fund the government activism they want at the time when seniors go from 40 million to 80 million. it's an extraordinary victory for republicans that that is the framework of debate now whether you're extending it for everybody or just 250 and below when virtually every democrat voted against it a decade ago. >> we have to give serious thought that taxes are going up for a short time
right now what we know for sure is this fiscal cliff can be avoided. everybody wants to avoid it, by extending those tax cuts on the first $250,000 that every household makes. that's the senate bill with a couple additional benefits that's before the house of representatives, john boehner should bring it to the floor for a vote. >> senator blumenthal, thank you very much for being with us, senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. ron you make an interesting point. if you project the...
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exactly one week until we go off the cliff and new word that no one is reaching across the aisle right now. and remembering a legend. hollywood says good-bye to the "odd couple's "cigar-chomping oscar madison. i'm dana bash. alina, merry christmas. >> merry christmas, everyone. it's tuesday, deebs 25th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, those dreaming of a white christmas may be paying for that this morning. extreme weather is on the way this christmas day. millions could be in store for a foot of snow or more. it could even be a rare white christmas down south, along with a threat of tornadoes. bonnie schneider is tracking the holiday storm and, hey, good morning. >> good morning and merry christmas. unusual to see a snow storm set up here in oklahoma and in arkansas, and when you're looking back at the records some of the places highlighted in pink are going to see a white christmas and a snowfall going through christmas night. that hasn't happened in 80 years. what else is unusual. blizzard warnings. pop up in areas across arkansas as well as lower secti
exactly one week until we go off the cliff and new word that no one is reaching across the aisle right now. and remembering a legend. hollywood says good-bye to the "odd couple's "cigar-chomping oscar madison. i'm dana bash. alina, merry christmas. >> merry christmas, everyone. it's tuesday, deebs 25th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> and our starting point, those dreaming of a white christmas may be paying for that this morning. extreme weather is on...
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that is right up there. and i get that one. >> yeah, well, fiscal cliff. it involves economics, it involves politics. a lot of people think it's going to increase the deficit, which it isn't. a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >> long ago. >> yep. and they discussed how many words and phrases are overused too often. and the originator of this list back in 1976 went back and drew up a list of five words to submit to upi, united press international. and the whole thing took off from there, and we take nominations from all over the world. whatever floats to the top gets to our list. >> and is i was going to ask how that happened. people can, what, make suggestions, somehow contact your university and say here's a word i want banished. >> lssubanished. do a search and it will get you right to our page. and there is still t
that is right up there. and i get that one. >> yeah, well, fiscal cliff. it involves economics, it involves politics. a lot of people think it's going to increase the deficit, which it isn't. a lot of people are worried it's going to decrease the deficit. so a lot of complicated issues and political issues. and we hear it all of the time. >> let's talk about lake superior state university and how this list compiling all began. >> it was a bet new year's eve, 1976. >>...
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and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >> i thi
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there's information on the fiscal cliff, as well. there's still negotiations going on in washington. we'll have updates on both these stories right after the break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ crowd cheering ] [ man ] touchdown confirmed. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ mouse clicks ] i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. >>> i'm don lemon in the cnn headquarters in atlanta. we're following two breaking news stories today, both out of washington, or at least washington involved. first you were, secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital this hour being treated for a blood clot. doctors say t
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both sides say they want to avoid the tax increases to avoid the fiscal cliff. they can't seem to get past the blame game here. if there's no deal, how is it going to work, how are they going to feel? people are struggling. i want to bring in our cnn contributor john avlon about this. john, it's a game we keep playing over and over. they come to the very edge and they get something done. we're talking five days now which seems pretty pathetic. do we anticipate that this is -- this is going to be worked out, even if it's the last minute, last minute, that something is going to get done? >> i mean that is the hope. you hope for the best but prepare for the worst. and there's been an increased tone of pessimism on capitol hill. harry reid said late last night he wondered if there was enough time to get this done. we've known this cliff was coming for months and yet the capitol hill in washington seems to be taking this at the last minute hoping they can throw a hail mary in the last couple of days. they haven't been talking or dealing. the president's apparently go
both sides say they want to avoid the tax increases to avoid the fiscal cliff. they can't seem to get past the blame game here. if there's no deal, how is it going to work, how are they going to feel? people are struggling. i want to bring in our cnn contributor john avlon about this. john, it's a game we keep playing over and over. they come to the very edge and they get something done. we're talking five days now which seems pretty pathetic. do we anticipate that this is -- this is going to...
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president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will get
president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a...
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the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can say there's a real reason to change it. in terms of the politicians, i think they're pursuing their best strategy right now and that leads us toward that cliff. unless something changes in the next couple of days, most folks now believe that any fix will happen after january 1st. >> the house gop leadership put out a statement yesterday. i want to read part of it for you. it says in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. if the senate will not approve, and send them to the presid
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we'll see, right? >> that's right. and we'll see also on the fiscal cliff. and the fiscal cliff standoff here in washington is frustrating the ceo of starbucks. he is asking some of his employees to help promote a deal. >>> and children in need of a home are caught in the middle of a dispute over human rights. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> the ceo of starbucks is pleading w
we'll see, right? >> that's right. and we'll see also on the fiscal cliff. and the fiscal cliff standoff here in washington is frustrating the ceo of starbucks. he is asking some of his employees to help promote a deal. >>> and children in need of a home are caught in the middle of a dispute over human rights. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy progressive customers. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was...
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then the worries about the fiscal cliff they took over everybody's pocketbooks. people are really worried their taxes going up. so what do you get? you get holiday sales not doing too hot. holiday sales are up a little less than 1%, winds up being the weakest growth in three years. it is still early. these numbers are still rolling in. but, you know what, they're not a good sign. after christmas spending, it could help a little bit, but because of limited -- but because of limited -- there could be limited returns in the christmas shopping because a lot of people get gift cards and they do their returns. what retailers were hoping for is when people get into the stores do the returns and to shop for gift cards, maybe people will spend a little more on their gift card and maybe exchange instead of just returns. >> we got the sad trombone for the holiday shopping results. combine that with the fiscal cliff fears, we're six days away, how is wall street reacting? >> reporter: wall street is pretty quiet today. there is low volume again, which means not a lot of inve
then the worries about the fiscal cliff they took over everybody's pocketbooks. people are really worried their taxes going up. so what do you get? you get holiday sales not doing too hot. holiday sales are up a little less than 1%, winds up being the weakest growth in three years. it is still early. these numbers are still rolling in. but, you know what, they're not a good sign. after christmas spending, it could help a little bit, but because of limited -- but because of limited -- there...
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brian, thanks a lot. >>> now for the crisis we all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at this point? >> reporter: negotiations, candy. what do you mean by negotiations? i can actually report right now, thanks to our own ted baron and dana bash that harry reid, the senate majority leader, and minority leader mitch mcconnell are meeting right now as we speak. perhaps there could be incremental progress. but as you well know, time is running out and the president today spent his day behind closed doors. he did cut his vacation short after he came home from hawaii to at least be here and try to put on some kind of an agreement and as we go over the fiscal cliff, both sides seem
brian, thanks a lot. >>> now for the crisis we all know is coming, the fiscal cliff. the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts hit in just five days. you need to take a deep breath. you probably won't notice much, if anything right away, even if congress and president can't reach a deal. jessica yellin is joining us. i have not talked to a soul in the last week who believes that they are actually going to get a deal before january 1st. what is the temperature at the white house at...
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cliff deal. other senators that were planning to vote no, i know there were multiple no votes. an overwhelming vote in the u.s. senate in favor of the bill. >> what happens next? >> right, so now this vote goes to the house. we expect house members to come in tomorrow morning, many probably will be start reading the bill right now. they will caucus especially the attention will be on house republicans. to see if they have the votes to pass the bill, if they need to get democrats to do it. there will be a lot of votes coming tomorrow. we don't know the schedule yet. there could be a vote in the house tomorrow, or today, rather, tuesday. as soon as they could pass it. that may take another day if not clear, they will wait until tomorrow morning or i guess, now that is only about seven hours to get some guidance from house leadership. probably the next 12 hours we will see the next phase of this and we will know if the votes are there in the house to pass this bill or not. we can expect that the pre
cliff deal. other senators that were planning to vote no, i know there were multiple no votes. an overwhelming vote in the u.s. senate in favor of the bill. >> what happens next? >> right, so now this vote goes to the house. we expect house members to come in tomorrow morning, many probably will be start reading the bill right now. they will caucus especially the attention will be on house republicans. to see if they have the votes to pass the bill, if they need to get democrats to...